Episode 210

Better Than Perfect with Dr. Greg Chasson | Win the Day
October 29, 2024
Dr. Greg Chasson has helped treat clinically severe perfectionism and related conditions for 20+ years. He is the author of 'FLAWED: Why Perfectionism is a Challenge for Management.'
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In this episode of Win the Day:

“A good plan executed now is better than a perfect plan next week.” – George S. Patton

Dr. Greg Chasson specializes in obsessive-compulsive disorder (OCD) and related conditions, high-functioning autism spectrum conditions, and anxiety disorders. As a board-certified cognitive-behavioral therapist, he has helped treat clinically severe perfectionism for 20+ years.

Greg has authored 70+ scientific publications and one academic book, and serves as the Editor of scientific journal, The Behavior Therapist.

He’s also an Associate Professor at the University of Chicago in the Department of Psychiatry and Behavioral Neuroscience, and Director of Behavioral Interventions of the Obsessive-Compulsive & Related Disorders Clinic.

Greg earned his BA in psychology from the University of California, Santa Barbara, and later obtained his Ph.D. in Clinical Psychology from the University of Houston. His professional journey led him through three transformative years at Harvard Medical School, including a prestigious internship at McLean Hospital and postdoctoral Clinical and Research Fellowship at Massachusetts General Hospital.

Greg has owned and operated two specialized practices – CBT Solutions of Baltimore (2010-2016) and Obsessive-Compulsive Solutions of Chicago (2016-2022).

His book FLAWED: Why Perfectionism is a Challenge for Management has just been released.

In this episode:
• How to identify the values that drive your behaviors.
• How to raise high-achieving children.
• How to upgrade the productivity and happiness of all those around you.
• Why embracing your flaws could be the best thing that ever happened to you.

Let’s WIN THE DAY with Greg Chasson!

Timestamps

00:00 Who is Dr. Greg Chasson
1:49 Interview starts
2:29 You are what you study
3:30 Overcoming severe OCD
5:16 Toughest days as a psychologist
6:38 Don’t work harder than the patient
8:26 How to get clear on your values
10:54 How to see the good in everyone
12:45 How to help someone change their behavior
15:35 Managing perfectionism in the workplace
16:46 Are people born with perfectionism?
18:13 How to know if you’re a perfectionist
20:30 How to make better decisions in life (The Emphasis Framework)
22:28 When perfectionism becomes a problem
24:55 Perfectionism in special forces operators
27:33 Why action is better than perfectionism
29:38 Download your FREE Win the Day Action Plan
30:30 Change yourself before you change the world
32:28 Anxiety in the workplace
34:03 Should kids receive participation awards?
36:46 Do hard things
39:10 Imposter syndrome
40:37 How environment impacts self-esteem
41:46 How to help a kid who’s a perfectionist (plus anxiety and depression)
46:34 Working with who kids who have autism
48:03 How to balance success in the future with happiness in the present
50:26 Affirmation
50:57 Rocket round

 

Resources / links mentioned:

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📚 ‘FLAWED: Why Perfectionism is a Challenge for Management’ by Greg Chasson

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Inspiring quotes in this episode:
  • “Use your values as a compass for everything you do in your life.” – Dr. Greg Chasson
  • “Don't work harder than the patient.” – Dr. Greg Chasson
  • “You can be depressed and not be sad.” – Dr. Greg Chasson
  • “When you can make people a part of the process, they own it a little bit more.” – Dr. Greg Chasson
  • “Waiting for a perfect plan tomorrow may cost you the battle today and the war tomorrow.” – Dr. Greg Chasson
  • “Don’t be a perfectionist with everything. Use the Emphasis Framework to determine how you should approach a given task. Emphasis A: Put in all of your energy. Emphasis B: Just get it done. Emphasis C: Don’t do it.” – Dr. Greg Chasson
  • “In a lot of ways, perfectionism creates this set of standards for oneself and these expectations that then beget goals that are completely unreasonable to reach.” – Dr. Greg Chasson
  • “Figure out what your values are so that they can dictate where you want to put all your effort.” – Dr. Greg Chasson
  • “When somebody is a perfectionist, they get stuck and they have a hard time making decisions.” – Dr. Greg Chasson
  • “If you give everyone a participation trophy, perfectionists feel that they didn't deserve it, or everyone got one, so it doesn't matter.” – Dr. Greg Chasson
  • “How can you expect your child to do something if you're modeling the opposite?” – Dr. Greg Chasson
  • “Where are you living? Anxiety: Living in the future. Depression: Living in the past. Happiness: Living in the present.” – Dr. Greg Chasson
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